[Lopsa-regional-project] tasks

[der.hans]

Am 05. Feb, 2006 schwätzte Adam S. Moskowitz so:

> [Cc'd to the LOPSA Board]
>
> On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 02:12:21 -0700 (MST) der.hans asked:
>> What do the groups who would be receiving the info packets want?
>
> The same thing I've wanted from SAGE for years: A compelling list of
> reasons for someone to join LOPSA. This is really a general LOPSA
> problem, not specific to the regionals project, but without it I'm
> reluctant to waste any of my group's time talking about LOPSA.

Trying to build the list :).

Thus far the main request we've gotten is getting presenters, right?
Specifically groups want help to pay costs of getting the presenters
in for the meetings, right?

> For years, SAGE claimed it was going to do all sorts of things, provide
> all manner of services, and deliver all kinds of value. Sometimes it
> came through (the short topics booklets, when every member received a
> printed copy for free), other times they failed miserably (SAGEwire);
> other stuff (the sage-members mailing list) was good, but hardly worth
> the $40/year cost of membership.

What services from SAGE did you find worthwhile? What services did SAGE
promise and in your opinion not provide that you feel would have been
worthwhile?

> LOPSA needs to give people a reason to join. I think most of the
> current members joined "to help a worthy cause"; there's nothing wrong

I'm here because I think it's a worthy cause. Also, after being frustrated
by the USENIX/SAGE setup I feel LOPSA is an organization where I'm allowed
to help.

> with that, but it's not going to appeal to the average sysadmin. As a

Agreed.

> group leader I would mention SAGE at our meetings, but I could never
> stand in front of my group and say "you should join SAGE" because I
> could never give a good, solid reason for them to shell out $40. If
> LOPSA is going to succeed, this is one of the things it needs (and
> soon).
>
>    Note to the LOPSA Board: Please don't think I'm saying
>    that LOPSA is failing on this point; it's early days
>    yet and I know we don't have much to offer. That's fine.
>    No, all I'm saying is I think this is something important
>    and I hope the Board will give it high priority.
>
> So there, in something a bit larger than a nutshell, is what I think
> must be the single most important thing in the LOPSA information packet
> and/or presentation.

Cool. Thanks for the response :).

Things we can already offer:

. mailing list hosting
. irc channel hosting

Not much, especially for established groups, but it's a start.

Things I think we can offer in the next couple of months if we want:

. promotion exchange
. updatable regional group directory
. web and DNS hosting ( any other services we could offer? NTP? streaming
server for meetings? )
. event planning service ( or something similar )
. content stream ( LOPSA provides a consilidation mechanism from various
groups and makes the stream available for them to have as content for
their sites. I guess it could be similar to SAGEwire, but I'm thinking
more about original content than just LOPSAdotting things )

For any of these ( or other ) services to happen the members we currently
have need to help us build them.

ciao,

der.hans
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